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<ravibitsgoa> Hi everyone, is this a good place to ask queries about building hpx?
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<ravibitsgoa> While running make for hpx, I am getting the following error: [ 39%] Linking CXX shared library ../lib/libhpx.dylib Undefined symbols for architecture x86_64: "boost::system::detail::system_category_instance"
<ravibitsgoa> Can anyone help with this?
<K-ballo> ravibitsgoa: are you using boost 1.68.0?
<K-ballo> has it been build for C++98/11, and is being consumed from a 14/17/2a codebase?
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<ravibitsgoa> I am using boost 1.68.0 built from source.
<ravibitsgoa> but I think I got something wrong while building it.
<K-ballo> I'm guessing you went with the default flags, rather than specifying C++14 or 17 or
<ravibitsgoa> @K-ballo: I am not sure. I gave c++14 as standard, but it still doesn't work.
<K-ballo> maybe there was a typo in the flag, that's a known 1.68 11/14 abi compatibility
<K-ballo> or maybe it's trying to link to a different boost build, perhaps the system one?
<K-ballo> did you do something like b2 cxxflags=-std=c++14?
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<ste||ar-github> [hpx] biddisco pushed 1 new commit to fix_guided_exec: https://github.com/STEllAR-GROUP/hpx/commit/88b843fb64dbc39b225cef9acdc88966a40ac469
<ste||ar-github> hpx/fix_guided_exec 88b843f John Biddiscombe: Fix order of template params in execution::post
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<jbjnr_> heller_: I had a vtk-m PR to get it merged with the master, but they merged some other changes first that broke it - this happened around the time I was transferred into the other group here at CSCS and viz stuff got dropped, so my branch needs a few tweaks to get going. Have not been following the vtkm development for a while, so not sure what else has changed in the meantime.
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<ste||ar-github> [hpx] biddisco pushed 1 new commit to fix_guided_exec: https://github.com/STEllAR-GROUP/hpx/commit/dbeb6a87d97a7278ca2cd8d00591bf8f66b349e0
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<simbergm> jbjnr_ (IRC): you've been working hard, thanks!
<simbergm> did changing to an older hwloc help?
<jbjnr_> yes. With my fixes (pushed more this morning) it works fine on the hwloc 1.11.x release chain, but our implementation of hwloc 2.x is not correct. I kind of knew that when someone fixed things for hwloc 2.x a few months ago becuase it just didn't look right, but I didn't have any proof.
<jbjnr_> I should have looked into this before.
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<ste||ar-github> [hpx] msimberg pushed 1 new commit to master: https://github.com/STEllAR-GROUP/hpx/commit/0e6625757735c1f2d1549844a6f5bc0022411980
<ste||ar-github> hpx/master 0e66257 Mikael Simberg: Merge pull request #3536 from STEllAR-GROUP/update_lsu_support...
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<ravibitsgoa> K-ballo: Yes, I used c++14 flag while compiling boost
<ravibitsgoa> Can it be due to some other reason?
<ravibitsgoa> building*
<jbjnr_> ravibitsgoa: can you confirm that the boost detected by cmake in your build is the right one? it's not accidentally linking to the system boost is it?
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<jbjnr_> simbergm: yt?
<jbjnr_> nvmnd
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<ravibitsgoa> jbjnr_: I think it is linking to the right boost only. How do I verify the same?
<heller_> look at the command line of the link step
<jbjnr_> make VERBOSE=1
<jbjnr_> ^^ use theat command line to see the full compile and link flags
<jbjnr_> or "make <target> VERBOSE=1"
<jbjnr_> (VERBOSE=1 only works with cmake generated projects)
<jbjnr_> if the link step is calling another cmake generated script, then you can look at the contents directly with any old editor, or cat
<jbjnr_> OR ...
<jbjnr_> run ccmake, press "T" to look at advanced options, and then manaully inspect all the boost flags and libs that are detected
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<simbergm> jbjnr_ (IRC): never mind or still something?
<jbjnr_> I was going to ask if yu could trigger a clang build on pycicle of my fix_guided_exec branch, but I triggered one on rostam instead
<simbergm> okeydokey
<simbergm> jbjnr_ (IRC): how about we recommend hwloc < 2 for the release and mention the numa issues in the notes, leaves us (you...) more time look into the changes in hwloc 2?
<simbergm> you haven't noticed anything wrong with thread bindings in hwloc 2 I hope?
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<heller_> Yes, we should really release today or Monday
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<ste||ar-github> [hpx] msimberg pushed 1 new commit to release: https://github.com/STEllAR-GROUP/hpx/commit/113c426a17453c67066a952b7b696bdf30c5a624
<ste||ar-github> hpx/release 113c426 Mikael Simberg: Add note about hwloc 2 NUMA domain handling to build instructions
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<simbergm> jbjnr_ (IRC): ^]
<jbjnr_> simbergm: probably the best thing to do is recommend hwloc 1.11.x rather than 2.x for now. I had to go out over lunch, so stopped looking in to it. Hopefully the fix is reasonably straightforward, but we don't want to delay a release at this stage.
<jbjnr_> Please do merge my guided_exec_fix if the builds pass though
<jbjnr_> can't see anything on rostam yet
<simbergm> I meant the commit ^
<simbergm> I updated the build instructions to recommend hwloc < 2
<simbergm> guided exec can go in if it passes, but otherwise it'll have to wait
<simbergm> main goal was to get it into master, bug fixes can come later ;)
<simbergm> oh, you mean don't merge if it passes?
<simbergm> ok, I can't read
<simbergm> "do merge if builds pass", will do
<jbjnr_> aha. I see your note. yes. good idea. No DO merge my stuff if it passes. It'd be great if cholesky runs on master
<jbjnr_> can't see any clang build results
<simbergm> yes, it would be great
<simbergm> rostam seems stuck on configure for a couple of hours
<simbergm> my pycicle has some builds about to start soon
<jbjnr_> thanks. Will monitor pycicle
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<ste||ar-github> [hpx] msimberg pushed 1 new commit to release: https://github.com/STEllAR-GROUP/hpx/commit/671fdca7e59ceb872dcb627c22d190b9ee5fcf4b
<ste||ar-github> hpx/release 671fdca Mikael Simberg: Change recommended hwloc version to be exactly 1.11
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<hkaiser> if hwlock doesn't work we should prevent the user from using it
<hkaiser> hwloc v2, that is
<hkaiser> and I'd rather wait for another week to have this fixed
<jbjnr_> hkaiser: I'll try to fix it today
<jbjnr_> because I CARE!
<jbjnr_> :)
<hkaiser> jbjnr_: thanks!
<hkaiser> much appreciated
<zao> Ooh, what's this then?
<zao> Some sort of performance impact, or something worse?
<jbjnr_> hwloc changed between 1.x and 2.x and our checks report wrong numa nodes. nothing interesting, but bad for our affinity stuff.
<heller_> hkaiser: Ali's system is awesome... I want one of those under my desk as well ;)
<hkaiser> heh
<hkaiser> heller_: we just bought that one
<heller_> yeah, pretty cool one
<heller_> nice buy
<heller_> a little sad that the C++ and Rust task parallelism talk are at the same time
<zao> Indeed, the allure of Rust might pull a lot of people that would enjoy your talk.
<heller_> yeah
<heller_> let's see if I can change it
<hkaiser> heller_: nice
<hkaiser> heller_: have they announced a keynote?
<heller_> hkaiser: the program hasn't been officially announced yet
<heller_> hkaiser: looks like Boris Schälling is giving it though
<hkaiser> k
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<ste||ar-github> [hpx] StellarBot pushed 1 new commit to gh-pages: https://github.com/STEllAR-GROUP/hpx/commit/15e444322b185e6f5332a369384296878ee34bc1
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<heller_> aserio: hey
<heller_> aserio: see pm please
<aserio> simbergm: yt? I have a question about the docs
<jbjnr_> simbergm: \o/ looks like fix_guided_exec came through clean on clang
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<ravibitsgoa> Hi everyone, I am still facing the issues while building hpx.
<ravibitsgoa> I tried rebuilding boost with c++14 flags, removed the old one, tried complete build, but nothing worked.
<ravibitsgoa> (I am on MacOS.)
<aserio> ravibitsgoa: why don't you post a gist of your build log
<aserio> simbergm: where do the new generated sphinx docs live?
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<aserio> ravibitsgoa: I think heller_: will need the whole output to diagnose the issue
<ravibitsgoa> umm verbose one?
<zao> What's this `cxxstd=14` for Boost? Something generic for `cxxflags=-std=c++14`?
<ravibitsgoa> yeah
<zao> Too bad I left my mac at work.
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<zao> Boost bug, if I understand this right.
<hkaiser> unheard of
<hkaiser> simbergm: do you want me to still fix the partitioned_vector test failures on circleci for the release?
<hkaiser> can be easily done
<heller_> aserio: lol
<heller_> Nice try though
<heller_> hkaiser: aserio: if I don't hear from yall regarding problems with the demo, I'm calling it a week in about three hours
<hkaiser> heller_: Ali is flying today
<simbergm> hkaiser: absolutely if you know what to do!
<simbergm> We're already behind schedule so what does a bit more matter... :P
* simbergm needs to be stricter
<zao> That Boost issue seems bothersome, should we discourage 1.68.0?
<zao> (seems like you can't link shared-library Boost.System with C++14 and up?)
<heller_> hkaiser: OK, i was under the impression that he could still test today :/
<K-ballo> zao: known new limitation
<K-ballo> we should encourage building for C++14/17, or is that not sufficient?
<zao> See ravibitsgoa's problem above.
<zao> (and the thread I linked)
<zao> As in, this isn't about mismatched HPX and Boost language levels, but Boost hecking up constexprs somewhere in their >= C++14 builds?
<zao> I don't have any mac around to test meaningfully with.
<K-ballo> I'm not sure I follow
<zao> Hmm, that issue might be MSVC-specific.
<zao> Still lost as to why mac builds are apparently somewhat broken.
<zao> Seems to be similar.
<K-ballo> are we certain that the boost being linked was build for C++14?
<zao> No idea, and they left IRC.
<zao> My only Mac is a dinky one-core VM.
<zao> I could try to repro it, I guess.
<K-ballo> if the op comes back, building hpx itself for C++11 would give useful info
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<ravibitsgoa> K-ballo: Should I try building hpx with c++11? ( Even while I'm off IRC, I keep looking at the chat. :P )
<K-ballo> ravibitsgoa: impressive!
<K-ballo> yes please, try a clean build for C++11
<K-ballo> what's the flag? -DHPX_WITH_CXX11?
<simbergm> jbjnr_ (IRC): just waiting for the clang 7 build, but daint is not accepting jobs at the moment...
<simbergm> K-ballo: looks correct
<zao> =ON
<ravibitsgoa> Also, any idea why mpi is causing some trouble while installing boost?
<ravibitsgoa> I tried adding it to the config file, but it doesn't detect it.
<zao> Boost.MPI requires an MPI implementation, similiar to how Boost.Python requires Python and Boost.Iostreams has optional zlib/bzip2 components.
<zao> Unless you have all the optional prereqs installed, parts of Boost will not build fully.
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<ste||ar-github> [hpx] hkaiser created split_partitioned_transform (+1 new commit): https://github.com/STEllAR-GROUP/hpx/commit/d9da49966629
<ste||ar-github> hpx/split_partitioned_transform d9da499 Hartmut Kaiser: Splitting test to avoid OOM on CircleCI
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<zao> We don't depend on any of those, IIRC.
<hkaiser> simbergm: see #3539
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<ste||ar-github> [hpx] hkaiser opened pull request #3539: Splitting test to avoid OOM on CircleCI (master...split_partitioned_transform) https://github.com/STEllAR-GROUP/hpx/pull/3539
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<simbergm> ok, same old trick
<simbergm> thanks hkaiser!
<zao> Hrm, CMake doesn't seem to want to find my layout=versioned libraries.
<zao> layout=tagged passes configure step, however.
<zao> So I'm guessing that if ravibitsgoa has installed both an old tagged/system build of Boost and a versioned build of Boost, the new libraries will not be used?
<zao> Do you have a CMakeCache.txt?
<ravibitsgoa> yeah, I have a system build and a versioned build of boost, but I found a workaround, by manually copying the versioned files into the normal location :P
<ravibitsgoa> Does that work?
<zao> As our documentation explicitly advises having a versioned installation, if it doesn't work out of the box something ought to be done about it.
<ravibitsgoa> It's still giving the same linking error.
<zao> [ 91%] Linking CXX shared library ../lib/libhpx.dylib
<zao> [ 91%] Built target hpx
<zao> Wee-o.
<zao> Could you please make a Boost installation into a separate location (--prefix=$HOME/opt/boost-cxx14 to b2) and when configuring HPX, run -DBOOST_ROOT=$HOME/opt/boost-cxx14 ?
<zao> [100%] Built target core
<zao> With your broken setup, did a -DHPX_WITH_CXX11=ON succeed or fail as well?
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<ste||ar-github> [hpx] aserio created update_hpx_people (+1 new commit): https://github.com/STEllAR-GROUP/hpx/commit/989fce50e791
<ste||ar-github> hpx/update_hpx_people 989fce5 Adrian Serio: Updating HPX people section
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<ste||ar-github> [hpx] aserio opened pull request #3540: Updating HPX people section (master...update_hpx_people) https://github.com/STEllAR-GROUP/hpx/pull/3540
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<ravibitsgoa> with my setup, -DHPX_WITH_CXX11=ON also failed.
<ravibitsgoa> Now I will try with separate location.
<K-ballo> what's the output?
<ravibitsgoa> the output was same as the previous one.
<K-ballo> it can't be
<K-ballo> it ought to either compile, or fail with a different error
<K-ballo> depending on whether boost was built for 11 or 14
<ravibitsgoa> Currently, I am trying with different location.
<ravibitsgoa> in the previous case, hpx was compiling, but not linking.
<K-ballo> what was the linker error?
<ravibitsgoa> Undefined symbols for architecture x86_64: "boost::system::detail::system_category_instance",
<K-ballo> are you positive you are linking against boost 1.68?
<ravibitsgoa> yes
<K-ballo> does not compute to me, I'll pass it along to boost people
<zao> K-ballo: Built three combinations thus far, matched HPX and Boost C++ standards work for 11 and 14. HPX C++11 w/ Boost C++14 succeds building core.
<zao> HPX C++14 w/ Boost C++11 is building currently.
<zao> (all on macos)
<K-ballo> so far so good.. the current build ought to fail, it is not supported anymore
<ravibitsgoa> yeah, this is my kind of failure.
<K-ballo> yep, as expected
<ravibitsgoa> nothing is working for me :(
<K-ballo> you must not be building/linking what you think you are
<zao> Could you please upload a CMakeCache.txt from your build tree?
<hkaiser> so they finally managed to completely break Boost
<hkaiser> marvelous!
<K-ballo> you are either not building boost for C++14, or hpx for C++11
<ravibitsgoa> hmm so found the issue
<ravibitsgoa> I am unable to build hpx with c++11
<ravibitsgoa> it by default takes c++17
<K-ballo> setting HPX_WITH_CXX11=On would force -std=c++11, instead of detecting or defaulting
<ravibitsgoa> but that's not happening!
<ravibitsgoa> I tried this
<K-ballo> on a clean build?
<ravibitsgoa> I don't know what is going on.
<K-ballo> if so, then it is an HPX bug
<ravibitsgoa> well, how to clean a build
<K-ballo> wipe the build dir
<K-ballo> or at least the cmake cache
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<ste||ar-github> [hpx] chinz07 opened pull request #3541: Fixing the build system of the MPI parcelport (master...fixing_3475_v3) https://github.com/STEllAR-GROUP/hpx/pull/3541
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<jbjnr_> hkaiser: I know that you don't want to hear it, but these kind of boost related issues are why people tell me they will not use hpx as long as it depnds on boost. If we have boost as a subdir in hpx and can control the build reliably, then we'll be fine. We must start experimenting with the modularized cmakeified boost if it exists yet.
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<jbjnr_> it should be easy and straightforward, but I'venoticed recently that my boost layout=versioned doesn't get picked up properly on every system and i've had to drop down to tagged and system layouts sometimes.
<hkaiser> jbjnr_: sure, not my fault, though
<jbjnr_> noone is blaming you
<jbjnr_> certainly not me
<jbjnr_> are you at SC?
<jbjnr_> oops. not till sunday
<hkaiser> and I'm not against removing boost dependencies where possible, I'm just against a blind 'boost is bad' attitude
<hkaiser> jayeshbadwaik: yes, I'll be at SC
<jbjnr_> better that than a blind HPX is bad attitude!
<hkaiser> shrug
<hkaiser> your call
<K-ballo> this one in particular is not boost's fault, it is a bogus expectation on our side of guarantees that were never given
<jbjnr_> guarantees of what?
<hkaiser> we can for instance replace boost.regex with std regex which will cause a slowdown by a factor of 100
<hkaiser> jayeshbadwaik: do you want that?
<K-ballo> we can't expect things build for different standard versions to be compatible
<hkaiser> jbjnr_: ^^
<K-ballo> it just worked by mere chance in the past, it is not guaranteed to work, this is not a boost bug
<jbjnr_> ok. I would not expect them to anyway, but sadly some of our users are new to all this stuff
<zao> On the subject, what about it not finding versioned libraries properly?
<K-ballo> that's just C++
<K-ballo> there's plenty to blame boost for, this is not one of those things
<jbjnr_> zao: I wasted half a day recently trying to get hpx to detect boost on one machine and it just refused. New cmake, broken stuff.
<jbjnr_> new cmake + new boost + pain
<jbjnr_> never discovered what was wrong, but I think it went away when I wiped everything clean and started from nothing.
<jbjnr_> but I still wasted a lot of time on it
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<ravibitsgoa> phew! Finally building hpx worked!
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<ravibitsgoa> with this: boost for C++14, or hpx for C++11
<K-ballo> which one?
<ravibitsgoa> sorry, I meant both at once.
<ravibitsgoa> Now, how should I proceed?
<ravibitsgoa> I am supposed to work on parallel algorithms
<K-ballo> pick one or the other, don't mix, there's no guarantee things work if you mix, that was your original problem
<K-ballo> you either build both for 11, or both for 14, (or both with whatever set of flags you prefer)
<ravibitsgoa> ah, but it worked only I mixed.
<ravibitsgoa> I had to use boost with 14 flag and hpx with 11 flag
<ravibitsgoa> I haven't tried other combinations yet
<zao> I would recommend looking into what remains of Boost installations you've got in /usr/local, and strongly prefer using an installation with --prefix= to b2 and -DBOOST_ROOT to HPX's CMake.
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<jbjnr_> simbergm: just fyi - probably too late now, but I'm testing a fix for the hwloc 2 numa issue. hopefully have it ready by tomorrow.
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<zao> Ooh, our Bulldozer nodes have interesting topologies - https://gist.github.com/zao/46d900c72eeeb8fa126f518f75886a66
<zao> abisko has machine -> package -> numanode -> caches -> core -> pu;
<zao> kebnekaise has machine -> numanode -> package -> caches -> core -> pu;
<zao> (Bulldozer chips have six-core NUMA lumps)
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<jbjnr_> zao: do you never rest!
<zao> The key is always doing things other than the ones you're supposed to.
<jbjnr_> simbergm: hkaiser I think my numa check works. Will push a fix in the morning. falling asleep now. unlike zao.
<jbjnr_> zao: correct.
<zao> I should install a hwloc/2, just in case ;)
<jbjnr_> absolutely
<jbjnr_> goodnight all
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<ste||ar-github> [hpx] biddisco created fix_3538 (+1 new commit): https://github.com/STEllAR-GROUP/hpx/commit/2d75904e0983
<ste||ar-github> hpx/fix_3538 2d75904 John Biddiscombe: Fix numa lookup from pu when using hwloc 2.x
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<ste||ar-github> [hpx] biddisco opened pull request #3542: Fix numa lookup from pu when using hwloc 2.x (master...fix_3538) https://github.com/STEllAR-GROUP/hpx/pull/3542
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