hkaiser changed the topic of #ste||ar to: STE||AR: Systems Technology, Emergent Parallelism, and Algorithm Research | stellar-group.org | HPX: A cure for performance impaired parallel applications | github.com/STEllAR-GROUP/hpx | This channel is logged: irclog.cct.lsu.edu
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<gonidelis[m]>
hkaiser: will be late
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<hkaiser>
gdaiss[m]: do you plan to join today?
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<gonidelis[m]>
hkaiser: I guess you wrapped it up?
<hkaiser>
gonidelis[m]: yah, not much to discuss, just Auriane joined
<hkaiser>
gonidelis[m]: you want to talk about things?
<gonidelis[m]>
Nothing specific but I can join for a quick
<hkaiser>
ok
<gonidelis[m]>
Give me 2
<hkaiser>
sure, use the PMC link
<gonidelis[m]>
Sec
<gonidelis[m]>
It’s the daily drop
<gnikunj[m]>
hkaiser: apologies, I didn’t think I’ll oversleep🥲
<gonidelis[m]>
aren't you on an intership or sth 😅
<gdaiss[m]>
hkaiser: Sorry, had a conflicting meeting today
<hkaiser>
gdaiss[m]: np, we'll reconvene in 4 weeks only
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<gnikunj[m]>
<gonidelis[m]> "aren't you on an intership or..." <- Lol. Flexible hours my friend :P
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<hkaiser>
satacker[m]: reads fine, a couple of comments:
<hkaiser>
- you say 'I propose', I'd rather think 'I work on' is more appropriate
<hkaiser>
- Katie will take care of grammar/spelling/etc.
<hkaiser>
she's out until Monday, though
<satacker[m]>
Okay, thanks for looking
<gonidelis[m]>
satacker: I really like the looks. I hope this motivates some other folk (random ref: pansysk75 )
<gonidelis[m]>
hkaiser: K-ballo Why do we need `.get()` in the interface of shared_ptr? Why not just access the value like we access naked pointers?
<hkaiser>
gonidelis[m]: what do you suggest?
<hkaiser>
how would you access that value?
<gonidelis[m]>
by just typing the identifier?
<hkaiser>
so you suggest having an implicit shared_ptr<T>::operator T*() ?
<gonidelis[m]>
yes
<hkaiser>
gonidelis[m]: wouldn't that poke an invisble hole into the shared_ptr API?
<gonidelis[m]>
how?
<hkaiser>
just imaging f(T*) {} written by somebody, then sp<T> sp; f(sp); would compile, but from looking at f(sp); a ready could/would assume, that f received a copy of the sp
<hkaiser>
a reader*
<hkaiser>
this could lead to very difficult to find problems, also f() is not aware of the received pointer being managed by a sp
<hkaiser>
or even worse: f(sp<T>(...)) would compile!
<satacker[m]>
<gonidelis[m]> "satacker: I really like the..." <- Thanks, I will maintain a weekly log for the remaining part and host the recorded log too.
<gonidelis[m]>
hkaiser: I got everything until the even worse part
<gonidelis[m]>
why is this potential accepted compilation bad?
<hkaiser>
gonidelis[m]: because the sp is a temporary object that will get destroyed before f() is even executed