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<K-ballo> so the worst offender TU is performance/counter.cpp
<K-ballo> not entirely surprising, since it does some boost.spirit
<hkaiser> K-ballo: yah
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<hkaiser> we could isolate the parser into a separate TU
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<K-ballo> might not be a bad idea
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<simbergm> *confused* why is there stellar.cct.lsu.edu and stellar-group.org...
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<mcopik> simbergm: I think stellar-group refers to the international group of all of us and stellar.cct.lsu.edu is just stellar group @ lsu
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<hkaiser> simbergm: yt?
<simbergm> hkaiser: hey
<hkaiser> simbergm: hey, g, morning
<hkaiser> I'm uploading the files as we speak
<hkaiser> also, I created a ftp account for you for the future
<hkaiser> simbergm: I'll send an email about that
<hkaiser> simbergm: one question: the .zip seems to be very large compared to the others
<hkaiser> something is not right
<simbergm> awesome, thank you!
<simbergm> hmm, 6.6 MB here
<simbergm> same for you?
<hkaiser> 22M
<simbergm> ok, let me doublecheck what's in dropbox
<hkaiser> simbergm: nvm, I downloaded it again, now it's 6M
<hkaiser> no idea what happened
<simbergm> strange
<simbergm> others are 3-4 MB each?
<hkaiser> yes
<simbergm> good
<hkaiser> that looks sane
<hkaiser> could you download the files and verify the hash?
<simbergm> and I realized today that there's two stellar websites, I've now created the release post on stellar-group.org, will you or someone else post it on the lsu stellar site?
<simbergm> just a sec, will check them
<hkaiser> I meant download from the stellar site
<hkaiser> the archives should be up alreadu
<hkaiser> already
<simbergm> yeah, I will check those
<simbergm> that question was (semi-)unrelated to the packages :)
<hkaiser> simbergm: yah, we can copy things over to stellar.cct.lsu.edu, no prob
<simbergm> ok, was just confused about the two sites
<hkaiser> yah, political reasons
<simbergm> allright, hashes match, thank you
<simbergm> do you still want have a look through the release announcement?
<hkaiser> simbergm: did you add the download links to the DOwnloads page as well?
<simbergm> I've edited but not posted it yet
<hkaiser> ok
<hkaiser> I copied you post to the other site now
<simbergm> ok, good
<simbergm> would you mind checking http://stellar.cct.lsu.edu/files/hpx-1.1.0/html/
<simbergm> css and images are not showing up for me
<hkaiser> you need to copy those by hand
<hkaiser> from the source tree :/
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<hkaiser> simbergm: I have copied those now to the site, should be fine
<simbergm> okay, looks better now :)
<hkaiser> should I publish things now?
<simbergm> but for the future, they were in the docs zip I sent you, no?
<hkaiser> no
<simbergm> so did you just copy the docs/html folder from the repository?
<hkaiser> I just copied the images and src folders from the repo
<simbergm> yeah, you can go ahead if you want!
<simbergm> I've updated the docs page now
<hkaiser> please publish the download and docs pages yourself,
<hkaiser> I'll do the other site
<simbergm> yeah, no problem
<hkaiser> simbergm: could you insert a <!--more--> after the first paragraph of the post?
<simbergm> hkaiser: yep
<simbergm> thanks for noticing
<hkaiser> simbergm: did we really closed just 150 issues?
<hkaiser> I thought we closed near to 500 tickets
<simbergm> issues, yes
<simbergm> but there were many more PRs
<hkaiser> ahh
<hkaiser> you digged out the first commit ;) cool
<simbergm> it's always to see the humble beginnings of big projects :D
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<simbergm> could I ask you to update the release announcement on stellar.cct.lsu.edu again? I had shortened the announcement a bit, and it seems you got the old version
<hkaiser> simbergm: I can't attribute the post on the other site to you as you don't have an account there
<simbergm> the shortened one is now on stellar-group.org
<hkaiser> will do
<simbergm> thanks
<simbergm> I don't mind if you post it under your name
<hkaiser> you have to leave the page editing that post for me to access it
<simbergm> done
<hkaiser> done as well
<hkaiser> now to create a post on isocpp.org
<simbergm> downloads page updated as well
<hkaiser> nice
<hkaiser> do you want to do the reddit post, or should I do it?
<simbergm> feel free :) I don't think I even have a reddit account, can do it next time
<hkaiser> I have one just for the release announcements, nothing else
<hkaiser> ;)
<simbergm> so I will send the release email, can you do the rest (Sonia Sachs, external collaborators, etc)
<simbergm> ?
<hkaiser> yah, we'll do that Monday, Adrian has the list of emails
<simbergm> perfect
<hkaiser> have you created the release on github yet?
<simbergm> very cool, I'll add reddit to the release procedures
<simbergm> nope, that's next
<hkaiser> ok
<simbergm> just checking links now
<github> [hpx] msimberg tagged 1.1.0 at cd15db8: https://git.io/vxBQP
<hkaiser> https://isocpp.org/ done
<simbergm> hkaiser: can you change zenodo release titles? for the rc I had the 1.0 in the title, and now it's stuck on that even though it's corrected on GitHub
<hkaiser> don't think so
<simbergm> ok :/
<hkaiser> let ma have a look, but I think we'd have to contact the zenodo guys
<simbergm> ok, sorry about that
<simbergm> if you can't change it I'll write to them on monday
<hkaiser> this as well https://zenodo.org/record/1206917#.WrZhAjjHyw4
<heller> No waiting until the 27th?
<simbergm> 27th?
<hkaiser> heller yesterday was the day
<simbergm> hkaiser: it was only the rc (luckily=
<simbergm> )
<hkaiser> ok
<simbergm> yesterday?
<simbergm> confusion!
<hkaiser> simbergm: will you update the zenodo link on our readme?
<simbergm> yes, I will do the 1.2 branch, zenodo changes etc on monday though
<hkaiser> wasn't it March 23rd?
<hkaiser> simbergm: perfect, thanks
<hkaiser> thanks everybody! beer and pizza!
<simbergm> first commit mar 24, 4.26 PM
<heller> Hmm, thought it was the 27th ;)
<simbergm> :)
<heller> hkaiser: happy tenth anniversary!
<hkaiser> thanks!
<simbergm> thanks everybody!
<K-ballo> beer and pizza!
<simbergm> please let me know if you find broken links, typos etc
<hkaiser> simbergm: what's your email?
<simbergm> mikael.simberg@cscs.ch
<simbergm> last thing, vcpkg? that means making a PR against the vcpkg repo with updated version numbers? I can do that on monday as well
<hkaiser> simbergm: I can handle vcpkg
<simbergm> hkaiser: ok, thank you
<heller> And spack
<hkaiser> they ask for signing a special license before contributing, I already signed that
<hkaiser> heller: that's you thing
<simbergm> ah, ok
<heller> Not really ;)
<simbergm> distribution packages are updated by... someone?
<heller> Yeah
<heller> Not our business
<simbergm> ok
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<simbergm> release email sent
<K-ballo> alright, now is time for some fun breaking some code
<simbergm> nooo! pycicle to the rescue
<simbergm> but sure :P
<hkaiser> simbergm: please verify you can access the ftp site
<heller> Finally ;)
<heller> simbergm: thanks for your efforts!
<hkaiser> high five!
<simbergm> hkaiser: ftp works, thanks!
<hkaiser> good
<simbergm> thank you all, you did all the real work :D
<simbergm> allright, have a nice weekend everyone, I'll be reachable by email if not here
<hkaiser> simbergm: thank you for your effort - it was the easiest release we've ever had (I didn't do anything ;-) )
<hkaiser> I added the V1.2 images, btw
<simbergm> good :P I'll try to keep it that way
<simbergm> great, thanks
<heller> We're getting better on every release
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<simbergm> and the release procedures were very complete, made my job easy as well
<simbergm> bah, next time this needs some linebreaks... http://mail.cct.lsu.edu/pipermail/hpx-users/2018-March/001499.html
<hkaiser> simbergm: mail is being rewrapped by all software on its way
<hkaiser> no matter what you do it looks wrong
<zao> Wrapping with textwidth=72 tends to do a decent job for anything that's not quoted excessively.
<zao> Saw one of my cow-orkers do line wrapping manually in Vim the other day... it hurt.
<zao> Backspace the line up, remove comment sign, repeat :)
<zao> (gq can reflow lines with leading comment signs)
<hkaiser> everybody: vote up post on reddit
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<jbjnr_> simbergm: great job. Thanks
<heller> 88% upvoted
<heller> wow
<heller> we have to find those 12% ;)
<K-ballo> we already know who that is
<heller> does anybody do twitter?
<hkaiser> heller: I see 99% upvotes
<heller> 89%
<heller> or do you have a different internet than me?
<hkaiser> depends on what server you are ;)
<hkaiser> are you signed in?
<hkaiser> they treat non-signed in users differently
<hkaiser> replication is much slower for them
<hkaiser> anyways, gtg
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<simbergm> jbjnr_: thanks
<simbergm> you deserve a big thank you for pycicle, wouldn't have worked out without that!
<hkaiser[m]> indeed
<parsa[[w]]> heller: 89% of what?
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<parsa[w]> oh... it's 90%
<parsa[w]> 91
<hkaiser[m]> jbjnr_ any news on the workshop?
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<parsa[w]> hkaiser[m]: Phylanx fails to compile with Blaze's current master
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<parsa[w]> the errors talk about some EnableIf sorcery
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<K-ballo> I'll bump min boost required to 1.58
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<github> [hpx] K-ballo created boost-bump (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vxBja
<github> hpx/boost-bump 8c991d2 Agustin K-ballo Berge: Bump minimal supported Boost to 1.56.0
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<jbjnr_> hkaiser[[m]]: what news do you want? it's on 11/12 june and we want you to talk about how the ideal gpu/hpx interface ...
<jbjnr_> that's the theme of the workshop
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<github> [hpx] K-ballo force-pushed fmtlib from 48b6cbf to a4196f8: https://git.io/vFHIw
<github> hpx/fmtlib a4196f8 Agustin K-ballo Berge: (draft) Replace boost::format with custom sprintf-based implementation
<github> [hpx] hkaiser created select_direct_execution (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vxRfp
<github> hpx/select_direct_execution 140fa31 Hartmut Kaiser: Adding trait for actions allowing to make runtime decision on whether execute it directly
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<heller> jbjnr_: so you guys don't want me?
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<jakub_golinowski> Hello, I have a question regarding workshops? Is there already an official information about it?
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<hkaiser> jakub_golinowski: what workshops?
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<jakub_golinowski> hkaiser: I mean the workshops discussed here earlier today
<jakub_golinowski> I assume these are the workshop on HPX similar to the one from last year and 2016?
<github> [hpx] hkaiser force-pushed select_direct_execution from 140fa31 to a786094: https://git.io/vxRqv
<github> hpx/select_direct_execution a786094 Hartmut Kaiser: Adding trait for actions allowing to make runtime decision on whether execute it directly
<hkaiser> jakub_golinowski: ahh - none is planned, afaik
<jakub_golinowski> hkaiser: and the workshops mentioned earlier today that take place on 11/12 of June, where will they be held?
<hkaiser> those are related to C++ APIs for GPUs and their integration with async tasking systems
<hkaiser> the one in June is in Zuerich
<jakub_golinowski> hkaiser: interesting, are they already advertised somewhere so I can sign up?
<hkaiser> jakub_golinowski: jbjnr_ is organizing that one - pls ask him
<jakub_golinowski> hkaiser: ok, thank you for referencing me
<hkaiser> :D any time
<K-ballo> hkaiser: remember those weird uses of boost::format that do absolute tabulation?
<K-ballo> there used to be 3 but I only see 2 now
<github> [hpx] K-ballo force-pushed boost-bump from 8c991d2 to 8bb02d2: https://git.io/vwLkY
<github> hpx/boost-bump 8bb02d2 Agustin K-ballo Berge: Bump minimal supported Boost to 1.58.0
<github> [hpx] K-ballo opened pull request #3253: Bump minimal supported Boost to 1.58.0 (master...boost-bump) https://git.io/vxRmP
<jbjnr_> jakub_golinowski: sorry - the workshop I'm talking about is not going to be open to persons outside of some of our immediate projects
<jakub_golinowski> jbjnr_: ok I understand, thank you for clarification
<jbjnr_> heller: I have not asked yet, but I will send you an invite if it's ok. I think it will be fine, but if you come, then I might want you to talk about coroutine interface to hpx and how the coroutine design could potentially be a model for other apis
<jbjnr_> I've not studied it properly, but my understanding is that it uses fancy templates to allow us to bind our threads to the standard api
<jbjnr_> we might need this kind of approach for task related activities if nvidia develop new apis
<jbjnr_> flying first thing tomorrow. radio silence for a day or two. The Aloa Hawaii!
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<jbjnr_> Then^ Aloa Hawaii!
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<jakub_golinowski> jbjnr_: oh so you are going on Holiday? Could you quickly have a last look at my proposal? I just finished editing it
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<zao> Didn't you see his mail to the list mentioning the absence? :)
<zao> This is your friendly reminder that the EU moves to summer time tonight.
<github> [hpx] hkaiser force-pushed select_direct_execution from a786094 to f742434: https://git.io/vxRqv
<github> hpx/select_direct_execution f742434 Hartmut Kaiser: Adding trait for actions allowing to make runtime decision on whether execute it directly
<github> [hpx] hkaiser opened pull request #3254: Adding trait for actions allowing to make runtime decision on whether to execute it directly (master...select_direct_execution) https://git.io/vxRYz
<jakub_golinowski> yes, now I remember :D
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<github> [hpx] K-ballo force-pushed fmtlib from a4196f8 to 6604e85: https://git.io/vFHIw
<github> hpx/fmtlib 6604e85 Agustin K-ballo Berge: (draft) Replace boost::format with custom sprintf-based implementation
<K-ballo> went past 10k circle-ci builds (attempts)
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<parsa> hkaiser:
<parsa> ping
<hkaiser> hey
<parsa> hkaiser: so what's your direct_eval measuring?
<hkaiser> what do you mean?
<hkaiser> ahh
<parsa> in #322
<parsa> #332
<hkaiser> give me a sec, brb
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<github> [hpx] K-ballo force-pushed fmtlib from 6604e85 to 62fac77: https://git.io/vFHIw
<github> hpx/fmtlib 62fac77 Agustin K-ballo Berge: (draft) Replace boost::format with custom sprintf-based implementation
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<hkaiser> parsa: ok, back
<parsa> i don't get what eval_direct is measuring… what's the unit? count?
<hkaiser> parsa: the PR introduces runtime adaptivity to decide whether to evaluate things directly
<hkaiser> the perf counter returns whether a particular primitive is being executed directly or not (-1: undecided, 0: async, 1: sync)
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