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<hkaiser> parsa[w]: here
<parsa[w]> hkaiser: i forgot to ask you this: right now i have to do a "#define NOMINMAX" to get Blaze work with HPX on Windows
<parsa[w]> does hpx include windows.h anywhere?
<hkaiser> parsa[w]: yah, that's a blaze problem - alternatively include hpx/config.hpp first
<hkaiser> parsa[w]: yes
<hkaiser> or no, config.hpp might not help
<hkaiser> just define NOMINMAX, then
<parsa[w]> where is the right place to put it? i put in the project's property pages
<hkaiser> add it to cmake
<parsa[w]> something like if windows, add_definitions(-DNOMINMAX)?
<hkaiser> to "PHYLANX_EXPORTS;NOMINMAX"
<parsa[w]> excellent. thank you!
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<heller> K-ballo: yeah, inspect doesn't have a dependency on core ...
<heller> should hopefully be completed in about an hour or so
<heller> pretty cool, also runs the unit and regressions tests now ;)
<heller> actually never waited for the unit tests to finish ...
<heller> I'm pretty satisfied with the current state though
<heller> pretty nice
<heller> asked for a free upgrade to use larger resources
<K-ballo> I like the look of that
<heller> yeah
<heller> let's see
<heller> still testing
<heller> potentially, we will also get a proper test report
<heller> https://circleci.com/gh/STEllAR-GROUP/hpx/8306 <-- and of course a timing report for the header tests :D
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<K-ballo> why don't we get that now?
<K-ballo> oh I've only just now understood "parallel builds" or whatever
<heller> because we call make tests.headers instead of ctest -R tests.headers
<K-ballo> why couldn't we before?
<heller> oh, we could have
<heller> nothing wrong with doing it before
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<heller> hkaiser: https://circleci.com/workflow-run/0fc83884-e60d-496d-ac7a-0e3da7c4de94 <-- I'd say this is a nice improvement
<hkaiser> heller: it is indeed
<heller> not completely at a stage where I ultimately want to end up in, but getting there...
<hkaiser> thanks for pushing this
<hkaiser> each of those tasks takes up one of the 4 instances we have, right?
<heller> yes
<heller> the only really long running ones are unit_tests and headers_tests
<hkaiser> so if the slowest tasks runs longer than a quarter of the previous old time we loose
<heller> all others run in less than 27 minutes
<hkaiser> roughly speaking...
<heller> tests.regressions runs in 21 minutes, this is including actually running the tests
<hkaiser> but it looks nice
<hkaiser> so we should split the long running tasks as well
<heller> yeah, let me split the unit test one
<heller> not sure how to split the headers tests
<hkaiser> nod
<heller> too bad I can't include other yaml files
<heller> so the main file doesn't blow up...
<jbjnr> heller: you can split the tests up arbitrarily by running ctest -R regex1 and ctest -R -E regex1
<heller> yes, I know
<jbjnr> (skip the second -R)
<heller> the question is which regex to choose for the header tests
<heller> ha! actually easy cheesy ;)
<jbjnr> I've never run the header tests - what do they test?
<jbjnr> I only test unit and regression
<jbjnr> (and for the record hkaiser I'd like to see regression tests removed and just made part of unit testing)
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<K-ballo> does that mean we only get one build at a time? won't builds in the queue work on their own steps while another build is busy with unit tests?
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<jbjnr> K-ballo: not sure if you're asking me, but partially yes. I only dislike regression tests cos they don't need tro be special, they should just be incorporated in nit tests where necessary
<jbjnr> (building the tests can be split by using a mek rule for halk, and another for the other helf, same as ctest does)
<jbjnr> ^make rule for half. crumbs my typing
<K-ballo> no, I was asking about circle 2.0, I imagined it to be pipeline-like
<jbjnr> it seems driven by dependencies - so each branch of the pipeline can run when the parents are done
<K-ballo> in my mind regression tests are special in that they are not curated, someone reported a bug and just dumped a test on us
<hkaiser> K-ballo: if an instance is freed from on build (because its busy with just header tests for instance) it can work on another build - I hope
<K-ballo> they certainly could be turned into proper unit tests, if someone had the time to do the work
<hkaiser> K-ballo: yes, I agree
<hkaiser> what's the point? just leave them as is
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<hkaiser> jbjnr: what would be the point of removing the regression tests?
<jbjnr> no real point. I just said I don't like them - I guess because they';re not curated as K-ballo pointed out. they just hang around and accumulate and many are probably not valid any more
<hkaiser> jakemp: why not valid?
<hkaiser> jbjnr: ^^
<hkaiser> they prevent us from reintroducing old problems
<jbjnr> you find a bug, fix it, write a regression test, but then years go by and the code changes and the bug probably can't happen in quite the same way in some of thetests. so they are testing stuff that might be obsolete.
<hkaiser> jbjnr: as long as they pass they can't be obsolete - I think
<jbjnr> (not saying they are not useful, just if they were integrated into unit tests and maintained more it'd be better)
<hkaiser> sure - pain in the butt to integrate them, though
<hkaiser> K-ballo: I'd like to merge heller's PR first now as the solved problem causes endless failures in other spots
<hkaiser> would it be ok to wait for another day with the async pack stuff?
<heller> hkaiser: I think it is ready, this affinity failure is strange though
<hkaiser> yah
<hkaiser> happens on circleci only
<jbjnr> are they virtual machines?
<hkaiser> yes
<K-ballo> hkaiser: sure
<hkaiser> heller: ^^
<hkaiser> fix*
<heller> yes, it fixes the issue
<heller> look at the end though
<heller> there is a failure with hello_world
<heller> I have no idea where this comes from
<hkaiser> well, that's the issue, no?
<hkaiser> you tried to fix it in this PR
<hkaiser> ok, async pack first, then
<hkaiser> K-ballo: #2829 is conflicted :/
<hkaiser> heller: I thought, that this commit was meant to fix the affinity mask problems we see on circleci: https://github.com/STEllAR-GROUP/hpx/pull/2938/commits/bff5b95d26ce2a37afc10d9d2936c6e1e21e3430
<K-ballo> hah, well, it'll have to wait then
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<heller> hkaiser: I didn't try to fix this affinity problem, it looks completely unrelated
<heller> hkaiser: the commit you mention is not related to the service affinity masks
<heller> hkaiser: which seem to be set even though we request bind=none
<hkaiser> k, I thought that was the problem
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<heller> if we get everything back within 1 hour, we can claim success ;)
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<jbjnr> very nice
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<jbjnr> so what do the headers tests actually test?
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<heller> jbjnr: they test if the headers are self contained, that is, can be included on their own
<jbjnr> gosh. that's a build for every one!
<heller> yes
<jbjnr> expensive.
<heller> yes ;)
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<jbjnr> are they generated automatically
<heller> yes
<K-ballo> I had a syntax only patch, but there were reasons not to merge it which I no longer remember
<jbjnr> I see
<heller> now, if we had more builders available on circle ...
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<jbjnr> they should be run last then. They are less important than the actual unit tests etc. From the current build I see one task running and it's doing headers. almost 4 minutes in, when unit tests have not run
<heller> or faster machines... there now is an option to get larger VMs ... but only for paid plans ...
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<heller> jbjnr: well, if at all, they should be run first ... since they are almost as annoying as the inspect tests
<heller> K-ballo: cool, does this lead to faster builds?
<K-ballo> yeah, like half or less, is only parsing and no codegen/linking
<jbjnr> nice!
<K-ballo> but there were caveats
<heller> great
<K-ballo> I no longer remember, that patch is old
<heller> ok
<K-ballo> is what I've been using for my header reports
<K-ballo> I suspect something having to do with how all the compilation flags have to be replicated manually
<heller> hmmm
<jbjnr> I disagree that these tests should be run first. I want to see real failures first then cosmetic ones later (apart from inspect, because it is so annoying and every PR fails because of it first time).
<heller> jbjnr: ok, changed
<jbjnr> :)
<jbjnr> thanks
<heller> jbjnr: I'll wait until pushing, i want this to run first
<jbjnr> why is only sub task running - are there other builds taking resources
<heller> yes
<heller> we'd need to pay to get more resources
<heller> I asked if we get it for free though
<heller> let's see what they'll answer
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<heller> now we have two running!
<heller> yay
<heller> overall, I am pretty happy with this setup now
<heller> at least, we are getting proper failures
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<jbjnr> hkaiser: if I add another parameter in here https://github.com/STEllAR-GROUP/hpx/blob/1649b5308125bdeb68fbfa1f9a3835986070bd71/hpx/lcos/local/futures_factory.hpp#L364-L368 to handle my scheduling_hint for the numa aware task placement, you won't be happy will you?
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<hkaiser> jbjnr: do it if you don't break any existing code
<hkaiser> or fix all existing code if you do
<hkaiser> ;)
<jbjnr> it has knock on effects and I have to add that extra param in half a dozen places.
<hkaiser> yah, thought so
<hkaiser> what parameter do you plan to add?
<jbjnr> It seems like we should not pay for it if we don't use it, and should instead overload all those places with no params
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<jbjnr> the extra param is the scheduling hint from the task introspection lambda
<jbjnr> rats. gtg collect a child from school. bbiab
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<zao> Had to take down my test machine, AMD wanted more stability info :)
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<github> [hpx] hkaiser pushed 2 new commits to master: https://git.io/vd6PA
<github> hpx/master 87dd1c0 Taeguk Kwon: Classify chunk_size_iterator to input iterator tag.
<github> hpx/master d711115 Hartmut Kaiser: Merge pull request #2932 from taeguk/tg_fix_2866...
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<mbremer> @hkaiser: We're getting the code to scale :) At least compared to MPI
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<mbremer> Also @Heller s channel_direct branch is much faster, than the current channels
<hkaiser> mbremer: cool!
<hkaiser> mbremer: heller tends to do things without following up by creating a PR ;)
<hkaiser> I will push that along
<hkaiser> mbremer: see #2943
<Guest5499> [hpx] hkaiser opened pull request #2943: Changing channel actions to be direct (master...channel_direct) https://git.io/vd6MX
<mbremer> So for 16 nodes, I saw a speed-up of 1.63 from the current master to the direct action branch
<hkaiser> mbremer: nice - pls comment on the PR
<mbremer> Obviously run configuration dependent, but I'm glad to know it will get integrated into master
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<mbremer> Commented.
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<hkaiser> tks
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<heller> hkaiser: 2:45 for a complete build. Including running unit tests
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<hkaiser> heller: nice
<hkaiser> overall it will not be faster, but it's nice to have this
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<hkaiser> heller: currently one build takes let's say 4 hours
<hkaiser> we have 4 instances, so 4 builds will still take 4 hours
<hkaiser> with the new scheme, how long will 4 build take?
<hkaiser> (assuming we have 4 instances, still)
<heller> Hard to tell. I'd say it scales. This build didn't monopolize all instances
<heller> And it's easier to fill bubbles with smaller steps etc
<hkaiser> sum up all the steps in one build, how long is that?
<heller> Assuming everything gets linearized, it will be more than 4 hours. There is an overhead of approx. 1 minute per step
<hkaiser> filling up things makes sense only if you have gaps, our old scheme didn't have any gaps
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<heller> hkaiser: approx. 300 minutes.
<heller> 5 hours. That's a 30 min. Overhead
<heller> Not counting that we now actually run the test suite
<hkaiser> nod
<hkaiser> sounds good anyways
<hkaiser> heller: btw, I think I can fix the strange affinity error now
<hkaiser> found the issue
<K-ballo> it doesn't add up? isn't the new scheme doing more than the current one, running tests?
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<hkaiser> K-ballo: it takes longer as well, so all is as expected
<K-ballo> just 30 minutes?
<hkaiser> running tests doesn't take that long
<K-ballo> oh, really? I thought running tests took a long time.. why aren't we running them now?
<hkaiser> K-ballo: don't remember - something didn't work back then
<heller> Well, the machines available for v2 are a tad faster. The old ones need to fire up a VM and docker. Now it's just docker
<heller> Running the tests serially certainly takes some time
<heller> I only counted in my head... Might have forgotten a few minutes.
<heller> I'm optimistic that they'll give us extra resources though
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<heller> So yeah, it's a combination of things, I guess
<heller> Regarding gaps, the finer grain possible, the better ;)
<heller> And we can kill the docker-compile.pl script again!
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<heller> Ok, a few unit tests didn't compile. So I'd expect to be closer to 6 hours, when serialized
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<heller> would a clang5 build faster?
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<heller> are there any objections to update our base image for that?
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<heller> hkaiser: the disadvantage certainly is, that we merging PRs will take longer since we have to reach end up with an all green build :P
<heller> hmm, what I don't get though is that there seem to be two builds running, but the queued up, doesn't seem to start
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<heller> queued up one
<heller> ahh, there can only be one build per repo, d'oh :/
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<github> [hpx] hkaiser created fixing_affinity_issue (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vd6j6
<github> hpx/fixing_affinity_issue d92ebd1 Hartmut Kaiser: Attempting to solve affinity problems on CircleCI
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<K-ballo> that answers my question
<heller> which one?
<K-ballo> the one about 'idle' slots and mulyiple builds
<hkaiser> K-ballo: has #2904 ever been clarified?
<K-ballo> hkaiser no
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<github> [hpx] hkaiser opened pull request #2944: Attempting to solve affinity problems on CircleCI (master...fixing_affinity_issue) https://git.io/vdifI
<heller> K-ballo: ok, looks like I was wrong anyways. there are multiple active builds now
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<K-ballo> heller: how do I go from build step to full workflow? I can't find a link to the "superbuild"
<heller> you reference the different steps here, and set requirements
<heller> it's a small pain, step generators would help to avoid all the repetition
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<K-ballo> hkaiser: I'll look at #2904 and related again after the traversal stuff is merged, and I can start cleaning up the dataflow monstrous overload set
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<hkaiser> K-ballo: much appreciated
<github> [hpx] hkaiser created fixing_2137 (+1 new commit): https://git.io/vdiks
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<jbjnr> the dashboard does not how the status of examples being built does it?
<jbjnr> ^show
<jbjnr> hmm, it does it seems
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